Who else?

I would love to see anyone try and offer up a plausible alternative for the Heisman winner aside from Tim Tebow. Forget that he is a sophomore and look at the stats alone. When you compare his stats against anyone else’s in the country, particularly recognizing that he gets his while playing in the #1 conference in the country, it’s impossible (in my opinion) to believe that anyone else deserves it more than him.

2007 Season Stats:
Passing: 2,532 YDS | 23 TD
5 INT | 67.8 CMP%
Rushing: 718 YDS | 19 TD

He’s going to finish the season with over 3,000 yards passing and 1,000 yards rushing! He should have at least 20 rushing touchdowns to go along with at least 25 passing touchdowns! Not to mention that he’s passing at almost a 70% completion rate!

If anyone else wins the Heisman it will be a travesty.


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Micah is a husband to Tracy & a daddy to Grace, Kessed & Haddon. He’s Senior Pastor at Brainerd Baptist Church in Chattanooga, TN. Most of all, he’s a debtor to grace.

12 thoughts on “Who else?

  1. You’re jaded by your allegiance to the Gators. The fact that he’s only 7-3 this year (and consequently, that the Gators aren’t in the national championship picture) is enough for me to rule him out.

    QB’s are expected to do one thing… win. Big stats are secondary, which is why folks like Graham Harrell (Texas Tech, who’s blown away the rest of D-1 QBs by throwing for almost 43 TDs and almost 5000 yards at a 73.6% completion rate) aren’t in the mix.

  2. Well, John, according to Sports Illustrated last week, Tebow is currently the front runner for the Heisman. What’s more that was before Tebow’s monster game on Saturday. I think you may be proven wrong. Particularly when you consider that there are others who are considered front runners in the race like Darren McFadden it nullifies your argument.

    BTW, are you telling me that no one can win the Heisman unless they are in the title game? That’s hard to swallow don’t you think? If that’s not your barometer, what is? Do they have to be in the top 5? Top 10? I’m confident that I can’t follow your logic in this case.

  3. btw, let me add this statement from Fox Sports – and remember that this was made last week before his 7 touchdown performance against South Carolina and the “old ball coach”.

    An argument could be made that he’s been the best player in America, leading the nation in passing efficiency and setting the SEC record for rushing touchdowns for a quarterback while playing with a dinged up shoulder.

    And there’s this one from the Tampa Tribune,

    Tebow reduced the Heisman race to a two-man competition – at least for this week – between himself and Oregon quarterback Dennis Dixon by throwing for 304 yards and two touchdowns and running for 120 yards and five touchdowns Saturday in a 51-31 win at South Carolina.

    Tebow for Heisman!

  4. I said… “QB’s are expected to do one thing… win.”

    QB = quarterback, last I checked.

    I don’t believe Heisman winners HAVE to come from front-running teams, but for a QB… I think it’s a near necessity.

    I can’t deny Tebow’s a big-time player. I can’t deny he’s had a great season. I just wouldn’t vote for him due to the fact he hasn’t lifted his team to be a championship contender this year.

    Anyway, to refute SI and the Tampa Tribune (can it really be considered unbiased, given that it’s in Florida?), ESPN doesn’t even have Tebow in their top 5: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman07/index.

  5. and to provide one more counterpoint to your point, ESPN does have him in their top 5. The link you provided takes you to a weekly article that ESPN offers that presents the opinions of one of their Heisman voters. The particular voter that wrote this week doesn’t have Tebow in his top 5. ESPN’s top 5, however, is listed to the right of that article and they do have him listed in their top 5.

  6. John-

    I was interested in your thesis and so I thought I would do some research and I was surprised by what I found. Consider these tidbits.

    1. I had to go back almost 20 years to find the last 10 Heisman winners who were quarterbacks. I thought for sure that more than half of the past 20 Heisman winners would have been QBs. Nonetheless….

    2. Only 2 of the last 10 QB Heisman winners played on teams that actually won the National Championship.

    3. Of the past 10 QBs who have won the Heisman, only 4 played on teams who finished in the final 2 in the AP voting.

    4. Of those 10 quarterbacks 4 actually played on teams outside of the top 5 and 2 played on teams who were outside of the top 10.

    Gotta hate those cold hard facts huh? πŸ˜‰

  7. Okay, you wanna talk cold hard facts?

    Answer this… When is the last time a QB won the Heisman with three losses on the season?

    Not 2006, when Ohio State’s Troy Smith led them to a 12-1 record, finishing as the #3 ranked team in the nation after falling to national champion, Florida.

    Not 2004, when USC’s Matt Leinart led his team to an undefeated season and a national championship.

    Not 2003, when Oklahoma’s Jason White led his team to a 12-2 record (the last loss coming in the Sugar Bowl to BCS national champion, LSU).

    Not 2002, when USC’s Carson Palmer led his team to a 12-2 record.

    Not 2001, when Nebraska’s Eric Crouch led his team to an 11-2 record (the last loss coming in the Rose Bowl to national champion Miami).

    Not 2000, when Florida State’s Chris Weinke led his team to an 11-2 record (the last loss coming to national champion Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl).

    Not 1996, when Florida’s Danny Wuerffel led his team to a 12-1 record and a national championship.

    Not 1993, when Florida State’s Charlie Ward led his team to a 12-1 record and a national championship.

    Not 1992, when Miami’s Gino Torretta led his team to an 11-2 record (the last loss coming to national champion Alabama in the Sugar Bowl).

    You have to go all the way back to 1990, when BYU’s Ty Detmer led his team to a 10-3 record, with their final loss coming to Texas A&M in a bowl game. He shredded the passing record books that year.

    How about that for cold hard facts? πŸ™‚

    So… while I suppose it’s not unprecedented for a QB with 3 losses to win the Heisman, it seems that he really has to do something amazing. I don’t disagree that Tebow has had a great season… but I don’t think it’s enough to win the Heisman. In fact, personally, I don’t consider it Heisman-worthy. Gaudy quarterback stats are meaningless to me, unless those stats key victories.

    Anyway, it’s a matter of opinion, of course, and I know that no matter what I say to the contrary, you’ll continue to disagree. But hey… I understand… you gotta look for something to be happy about in Florida’s season. It’s gotta be rough on you knowing that the Missouri Tigers (of all teams) still have an outside chance at the national title while your Gators are completely out of the running. πŸ™‚

    Bottom line, of course, is that it’s up to the voters… not you and me. My bet is that they go with someone on a team that wraps up with a bit more success than that of Florida, and that Tebow winds up 2nd or 3rd.

  8. I agree that Chase Daniels should be in the running. I won’t be surprised if Tebow doesn’t win. If the Heisman voters have shown us anything in the past it is that the best player doesn’t always win but the most hyped player usually does.

    If it just went to the best player McFadden would have won it last year.

    One note about Tebow’s stat’s. Let’s not forget the level of competition that he is putting these rushing yards up on. He isn’t playing against the Big 12 north. He is doing this against tough defenses. I really think that LSU, GA, FL and Auburn could beat anyone in the country this year. I guess the bowls will tell that story.

    Stats probably don’t mean as much in the heisman race as we would like to think they do. What really matters is who is ESPN going to back and hype. That decides the vote in my opinion.

  9. Doh, just looking over this thread again… the correction I intended to make was that 3 of the last 10 QB’s to win the Heisman also won the national championship… not 2 of 10.

    Still waiting to hear what you have to say about all of my facts, Micah… πŸ™‚

  10. I hate to interrupt such a lively discussion of also-rans for this year’s heisman, but Dixon is they guy. You want stats? He’s got amazing stats (near as good as Tebow). You want wins? Uh, check the rankings. Either way, he’s in the center of the discussion. Ironically, as a Duck alum (there, I’ve tipped my hand) I need to pull for Micah’s Gators to put down LSU so Oregon can play for that mythical national championship the media tries so hard to create. Tebow can have the heisman, give us the Sears. I am assuming, of course, that the Big 12 champion will leapfrog UO in the standings. (Insert disparaging and sarcastic remarks about the BCS here)!

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