One more thought on Tebow


From this article by SI.com….

1. That youth will be served this Heisman season. During 12 hours of channel-flipping Saturday, I heard numerous talking heads proclaim that Tim Tebow “distanced himself” from the other Heisman contenders with his performance Saturday against Florida Atlantic. I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate. Florida’s sophomore quarterback “distanced himself” when his most viable competitor, Oregon’s Dennis Dixon, was lost for the season Thursday night against Arizona. Tebow did nothing against the Owls he hadn’t done all year (other than pass for a few more yards than usual), yet for some reason it took until this game for any remaining doubters to finally concede that hey, this kid is doing something special.

I similarly cringe whenever I hear someone say this year’s Heisman field is “weak.” I assume what they actually mean is, “A lot of the guys that we pegged in the preseason haven’t panned out,” because we’re witnessing some of the most spectacular individual seasons in the history of the sport right now. They just happen to be coming from “non-traditional” Heisman candidates like Tebow, whose age seems less a factor with voters than the audacity of his playing for a three-loss team. Saturday, Tebow reached two pretty staggering statistical milestones: He became the first player in I-A history to both rush and throw for 20 touchdowns in a season, and he broke the SEC single-season record for rushing TDs (20). Think about all the great running backs that have come through that conference — Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Shaun Alexander, et. al. None ever ran for as many scores as Florida’s QB has this season (not to mention none also threw for nearly 3,000 yards and another 26 TDs while they were at it). But yeah, this is a “weak” field …

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9 thoughts on “One more thought on Tebow

  1. Of course, I do not have a Heisman vote, or a voice in the proceedings, but if I did, my vote would go to Chase Daniel of Missouri first, and then Todd Reesing of Kansas, and after that, a relatively unknown player by the name of Rudy Burgess at Arizona State. Daniel has led Mizzou to heights previously unknown in the program’s history, and an 11-1 record. If he plays like he did against Kansas Saturday night, they’ll beat Oklahoma and be in the national title game.

    I don’t think it’s a weak field at all, I think the Eastern press has been pushing Tebow all season long, and are determined that he will get it, even if Florida had lost five games. Florida lost three, and Tebow built a lot of his stats against Western Kentucky, Troy State, Florida Atlantic or International or someone, and a Florida State team that will finish seventh in the weakest rated conference in the country this season, the ACC. I’d give him a shot at it next year, but this year, sorry. He hasn’t earned it, and he doesn’t deserve it. Chase Daniel does.

  2. Lee-

    The problem with your argument is that what Tebow has done this year, has never been done before against ANY competition. Not to mention that it was done against SEC competition, he’s had a touchdown run and pass in every game this season. His game against South Carolina he threw for over 300 yards and two touchdowns and he ran for 120+ yards and five more touchdowns! Are you kidding me! Against Tennessee he threw for 299 yards and 2 touchdowns. Against Kentucky he had 256 yards passing and 4 touchdowns. I’d say that’s pretty convincing. Not to mention that no quarterback, regardless of competition (save for 1 Air Force Academy qb) has ever rushed for as many touchdowns and no SEC player in history has had as many rushing td’s. Consider as well that he has combined for over 50 touchdowns already and after th bowl game will possibly have close to 1,000 yards rushing to go with over 3,000 yards passing. There’s no one else even close to deserving, in my opinion. I’m not the only one with that opinion, obviously. Here’s another good one to read.

  3. SEC competition this season is not what SEC competition has been in the past, and at that, Florida lost three SEC games. Tebow’s stats look very impressive, except when you compare stats from other QB’s against the same opponents, their stats are impressive, too. And Tebow’s numbers would not be nearly what they are if you subtract those four non-conference games. Three of those conference games were against teams that allowed opposing QB’s to run up stats against them, including Ole Miss, Vandy and South Carolina, and even Kentucky’s defense was not all that impressive.

    I don’t think the Heisman is all about individual stats, though. Chase Daniel’s stats could have been as padded as Tebow’s I suppose, but his coach, Gary Pinkel, doesn’t leave him in when the outcome of the game has already been decided, and their offense is a bit more balanced than Florida’s, which is basically, Tebow. Daniel is poised to lead his team to a national title, or at least, to the national title game.

    Personally, I don’t put that much stock in the Heisman voting anymore. Schools with money and press, mostly in the East, have an inside track, and the voting tends to be trendy and pushed by certain sources. Tebow will win it because the voters have been trying to justify their choice pretty much all season. But I think Chase Daniel deserves it more, and after him, I’d give it to Todd Reesing and Pat White in that order. Look where their teams are. That’s part of what I think the Heisman is all about. Florida is over-rated where they are, and not even close.

  4. According to the Heisman website, it is to be given to “The Most Outstanding College Football Player”. Beyond that, your statement about eastern schools having an inside track doesn’t hold up. In the last 10 years, the Heisman has only gone to a player who played east of Missouri only 3 times. Charles Woodson of Michigan Chris Weinke of FSU and Troy Smith of Ohio State. Other than that they have all gone to players at schools either close to Missouri, or west of Missouri.

    Beyond that, Chase has not come out early of very many games, Lee. That doesn’t hold up either.

  5. Here we go again… πŸ™‚

    Does it really matter what the Heisman website says, Micah? You know, as well as I, that the standard is intentionally vague. “Most Outstanding College Football Player” is interpreted in a variety of ways. Some look at stats… some look at his value to his team… some look at their record and how that player has influenced it.

    What I think Lee is getting at, though, is not necessarily that it’s all about Eastern players, but that voting is generally influenced by the amount of media coverage devoted to the player. It’s a function of the system. Allow me to explain.

    With over 900 individual Heisman voters, some (if not most) voters will have never had a chance to see some of the truly great players in action, simply due to a lack of national television coverage. It relegates voters to looking at stats, records, etc… OR MEDIA HYPE. It limits the pool of potential winners… it’s a system that naturally results in players from big-name schools or schools in the running for the national championship generally becoming Heisman winners.

    As you know, Tim Tebow has been hyped almost all year for the Heisman, and many of Florida’s games have been available nationally… with him having a great season, it’s natural that he’s the front-runner. Chase Daniel has had an incredible season as well… there is no quarterback in the country running an offense better than he is right now… but he is just now getting the attention he deserves due to the big win over KU and the #1 BCS ranking. The upside (at least for Mizzou fans), is that Chase has one more nationally televised game to impress voters… and a big one at that versus, yes, favored Oklahoma. In a “what have you done for me today” world, that hurts Tebow.

    As much as I hate to see it happen (again, Tebow’s record is a BIG minus in my book), your guy will probably win, giving Gator fans that one reason they’ve been looking for not to consider their season a complete failure. The voting will be closer than you’d expect, though, especially if Mizzou wins this weekend and Daniel performs like he did against KU.

  6. One more thought, by the way, to refute your point Lee. Florida has NOT played a weak schedule. According to the NCAA, they have had the toughest schedule in the country this year (click here) and according to CBSSports.com, they have played the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation this year. (click here)

    To the contrary, Tebow’s accomplishments are much more impressive in light of that wouldn’t you agree? Particularly when Missouri, and Chase Daniel, have put up their stats against a schedule that is considered 47th in the country, according to the NCAA.

  7. Oh, I know, you Gator fans are grasping at straws, not winning either the SEC East or a spot in a major BCS bowl this season. But everyone pretty much knows that the NCAA rating system of schedules is bogus, and biased. The best team Florida beat this season was Tennessee, which struggled and back-doored its way into the SEC title game. Tennessee opened the season by losing to Cal, a team that has sagged into fifth place in the Pac-10. The other wins came over Western Kentucky, Troy, and Florida Atlantic, all recent upgrade programs from I-AA. In conference, they beat Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy and South Carolina. Essentially, Florida beat two ranked teams, one which will likely not be ranked anymore. Kentucky turned out to be somewhat of a fluke early on, and the blue faded out pretty badly by the time the season ended. South Carolina, well, at 6-6, wasn’t Spurrier’s best effort, but he’s anticipating a call from Baton Rouge. The other two speak for themselves in the depths of mediocrity. Mizzou, on the other hand, handed stiff losses to two teams ranked higher than themselves, Illinois and Kansas, and beat one other team that was ranked at the time. LSU, Georgia and Auburn may have boosted the strength of Florida’s schedule, but they lost those games.

    If Chase Daniel can lead his team past Oklahoma on Saturday in San Antonio, he will have earned the Heisman. He will have led Missouri through a magnificent, three year football renaissance. Considering he is only a junior, and they have the bulk of their offense and defense returning, the Tigers may be unbeatable next season. The only shame will be that two other outstanding quarterbacks who have done virtually the same thing–Todd Reesing at Kansas and Pat White at West Virginia, cannot also win the award at the same time. Sorry, I know you probably bleed orange and blue but Tebow isn’t there yet. If he leads Florida back to the BCS title game next year, then he’ll have earned it. But finishing with a 9-3 record, and a berth in a second-tier bowl, regardless of stats, is enough to question whether he is the best player in college football. I know arguing against it is probably futile, because the voters have already made up their minds.

  8. I know you and I are going to consistently disagree about this, but I will clarify a mistake you’ve made. Chase has only led his team to 1 win over a team ranked higher than his, that being the KU game. According to the preseason poll, found here, Missouri was ranked #26 and Illinois had not even received a single vote in the top 25 voting.

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