Comments for MicahFries.com http://micahfries.com Gospel. Community. Mission. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:26:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Managing Social Media (before it manages you) by My Name is Kris, and I Am Addicted « Soli Deo Gloria: Living for His Glory http://micahfries.com/navigating-social-media/#comment-10796 My Name is Kris, and I Am Addicted « Soli Deo Gloria: Living for His Glory Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:26:42 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3039#comment-10796 [...] You can head over to Micah’s website and read the rest of this post (and many other great ones) by clicking this link. [...] [...] You can head over to Micah’s website and read the rest of this post (and many other great ones) by clicking this link. [...]

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Worth a Look: 1.4.12 – Trevin Wax http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-10405 Worth a Look: 1.4.12 – Trevin Wax Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:48:48 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-10405 [...] Fries on the Cooperative Program of the Southern Baptist Convention – “Can She Ever Run Again?” The more time I spend thinking about this, the more I am convinced that four simple steps could [...] [...] Fries on the Cooperative Program of the Southern Baptist Convention – “Can She Ever Run Again?” The more time I spend thinking about this, the more I am convinced that four simple steps could [...]

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by George T. Russ http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-10101 George T. Russ Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:12:24 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-10101 One other thought--the new generation of Southern Baptists do not have a clue about how we function, even the simplified process you suggest (which I applaud). On top of that, here in NYC our churches are 75%+ non English speaking and our challenge at education is that much more challenging. We are, in some sense, a victim of our own success. Especially in cities, a new effort at communication is essential. Unfortunately, this also comes at a time when our agencies are streamlining, readjusting resources, and our focus is one dimensional in North America. One other thought–the new generation of Southern Baptists do not have a clue about how we function, even the simplified process you suggest (which I applaud). On top of that, here in NYC our churches are 75%+ non English speaking and our challenge at education is that much more challenging. We are, in some sense, a victim of our own success. Especially in cities, a new effort at communication is essential. Unfortunately, this also comes at a time when our agencies are streamlining, readjusting resources, and our focus is one dimensional in North America.

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Sacrifice and Southern Baptist Missions | a mission-driven life http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-10041 Sacrifice and Southern Baptist Missions | a mission-driven life Fri, 06 Jan 2012 13:43:06 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-10041 [...] situation is different than what those missionaries faced. Micah Fries argued so well earlier that the current problem with the CP is not just the result of a poor economy. However, the attitude exhibited by these missionaries, who faced the brunt of the financial [...] [...] situation is different than what those missionaries faced. Micah Fries argued so well earlier that the current problem with the CP is not just the result of a poor economy. However, the attitude exhibited by these missionaries, who faced the brunt of the financial [...]

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Josh Miller http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-10003 Josh Miller Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:39:36 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-10003 I agree with Tony. I see other ministries operate much more efficiently than the SBC entities. Our church gives proportionally more to missions than others in our area,but it is not all to SBC entities. SBC must legitimize other faithful ministries and maybe consider adopting their practices. Fact is: continuing go.do the same thing with same philosophies is not working and is alienating many pastors. I agree with Tony. I see other ministries operate much more efficiently than the SBC entities. Our church gives proportionally more to missions than others in our area,but it is not all to SBC entities. SBC must legitimize other faithful ministries and maybe consider adopting their practices. Fact is: continuing go.do the same thing with same philosophies is not working and is alienating many pastors.

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Tony http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-9999 Tony Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:07:11 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-9999 "As an aside, if there are so many ministries that people genuinely think many of them are unnecessary and they redirect their funds because of these ministries, maybe it is, once again, time to think of simplifying and streamlining, but as I said already, that is a conversation for another day." This I think is a key issue- From those I have spoken to- this is why they give less. They think too much money goes to administration and ministries that are less important, and not enough to the ministries that are most important. Whether they are right or not- we need to be careful about your Step 1. Because they know enough about the process to say "no it pays this guys salary, and he is not a missionary" and they feel deceived. “As an aside, if there are so many ministries that people genuinely think many of them are unnecessary and they redirect their funds because of these ministries, maybe it is, once again, time to think of simplifying and streamlining, but as I said already, that is a conversation for another day.”

This I think is a key issue- From those I have spoken to- this is why they give less. They think too much money goes to administration and ministries that are less important, and not enough to the ministries that are most important. Whether they are right or not- we need to be careful about your Step 1. Because they know enough about the process to say “no it pays this guys salary, and he is not a missionary” and they feel deceived.

]]> Comment on Do not give to the Cooperative Program by Wise Words on the Cooperative Program | Nathan Finn l Christian Thought & Tradition http://micahfries.com/donotgivetothecooperativeprogram/#comment-9993 Wise Words on the Cooperative Program | Nathan Finn l Christian Thought & Tradition Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:06:48 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3144#comment-9993 [...] written two very helpful articles about the Cooperative Program. The first, cleverly titled “Do Not Give to the Cooperative Program,” makes the case that the way we talk about the CP really does matter. The second, titled [...] [...] written two very helpful articles about the Cooperative Program. The first, cleverly titled “Do Not Give to the Cooperative Program,” makes the case that the way we talk about the CP really does matter. The second, titled [...]

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Worth a Look: 1.4.12 : Kingdom People http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-9990 Worth a Look: 1.4.12 : Kingdom People Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:41:18 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-9990 [...] Fries on the Cooperative Program of the Southern Baptist Convention – “Can She Ever Run Again?” The more time I spend thinking about this, the more I am convinced that four simple steps could [...] [...] Fries on the Cooperative Program of the Southern Baptist Convention – “Can She Ever Run Again?” The more time I spend thinking about this, the more I am convinced that four simple steps could [...]

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by josh http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-9975 josh Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:22:34 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-9975 Great points, Micah. Too many times we (perhaps unintentionally) promote the CP as the end goal when it fact it should be the means to the end, which is the advancement of the Kingdom. Great points, Micah. Too many times we (perhaps unintentionally) promote the CP as the end goal when it fact it should be the means to the end, which is the advancement of the Kingdom.

]]> Comment on Can she ever run again? by Steve Schenewerk http://micahfries.com/can-she-ever-run-again/#comment-9974 Steve Schenewerk Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:41:44 +0000 http://micahfries.com/?p=3164#comment-9974 Thanks for your perspective. I have been a pastor for 30 years and have consistently supported the cooperative program. All the churches I've pastored have endeavored to give at least 10% of our undesignated giving to the CP. I try every year to make it as simple as possible, probably to the point of confusion! As Chair of the NWBC Exec Board Finance Committee the last two years (and now Pres. of the NWBC) I am seriously concerned about the slow down in support of the CP. It is not just a financial issue- during the Great Depression churches gave more than they are giving now. It is a heart and head issue. So, thanks for your thoughts and your heart. May all younger pastors follow your lead. Thanks for your perspective. I have been a pastor for 30 years and have consistently supported the cooperative program. All the churches I’ve pastored have endeavored to give at least 10% of our undesignated giving to the CP. I try every year to make it as simple as possible, probably to the point of confusion! As Chair of the NWBC Exec Board Finance Committee the last two years (and now Pres. of the NWBC) I am seriously concerned about the slow down in support of the CP. It is not just a financial issue- during the Great Depression churches gave more than they are giving now. It is a heart and head issue. So, thanks for your thoughts and your heart. May all younger pastors follow your lead.

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